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Six years ago, Fixing Healthcare launched as a “podcast with a plan to fix American healthcare.” After more than 150 episodes—spanning three election cycles—the show has explored countless ideas for reform. Still, American healthcare remains plagued by high costs, uneven quality and limited access.
One of our earliest guests left us with some of the most provocative solutions to these problems: Dr. Don Berwick, a name synonymous with medicine’s “Triple Aim.” With the November elections less than a month away, we thought listeners would find value in revisting Berwick’s groundbreaking vision for healthcare reform.
As Berwick explained, “We need a system of three goals: better care for people when they’re in the care system, better health for populations, and lower per capita cost through improvement, not through rationing or withholding.”
Supporting the Triple Aim, Berwick called for healthcare to be recognized as a human right and advocated for a shift toward global, population-based budgets—moving away from the inflationary fee-for-service model that dominates today.
Cohosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr were intrigued by the clarity and cohesiveness of Berwick’s plan.
“We have a highly fragmented system in which people are trying to solve problems separately,” Berwick said. “That is just not going to work … we’re going to have to fix healthcare together.”
Berwick is clinical professor of pediatrics at the Harvard Medical School and professor of health policy and management at the Harvard School of Public Health. He is the former head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid (CMS), the co-founder of the Institute for Healthcare Improvement (IHI) and leader of the organization’s 100,000 Lives Campaign.
Helpful links:
Season 1 explainer: ‘Welcome to the toughest interview in healthcare’
Episode 5 recap: ‘Don Berwick brings a global perspective to fixing US healthcare’
The full transcript of this episode with Don Berwick
Don Berwick: Profiles in leadership
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Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn.